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Jul 27, 2017 7:02 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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[/b]What opinion of everyone else? lol, I told you most all posts were nai, except how I saw Lucians posts. I havent even suspected anyone really, and explain to me where I completely 180 peoples thoughts and read? So now I need to go a long with every read or I'm scum? and What wild theories am I suppose to have, I only stated that towards Sleip cause as much as I think it was wild, I do know where hes coming from because, I posted a lot of stuff like that in previous games. You can easily turn anything anyone says against them, or for them, "I like wild theories", well I dont see any wild theories yet, hmm, hmm???

That line is exactly what im so hesitant to just drop town reads on people, sure I can change my read at any time, but people are manipulative if you give them a reason to think they are being town read that kinda gives them slight power. Ruu got away with too much shit in kiznaiver mafia.

Also why would you have to go with every read? Just like people don't want to blatantly follow logic you don't have to follow other reads. The problem is if 4 people see town intent in a post and you see scum intent then something is fishy.

True, True, Im waiting for Suzune-chan to clarify what I'm 180'ing so that I can understand where shes coming from. If its about defending myself that ya, of course Im gunna go against what everyone else thinks. Im not saying that what they are saying isnt probably cause, im just saying that not everything is just as Black and white as, "Only scum would say that", or "Only a townie would say that".
Edit: Had to fix, put my post in the wrong part of the quote :P
blinddate
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and if you’d meet her
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you were on a
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Jul 27, 2017 7:03 PM

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I wish others would chime it some more, but guess most are sleeping >3>


Jul 27, 2017 7:14 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Gwendolly said:


The only reason LW got in trouble is because he was being active. You already know that I dont like inactives (especially if they are lurking scum), because i have stated this a thousand times :P So I'm still up for anything else!


So are you willing to lynch an inactive or not im confused by your wording lol


I'm saying I want to see more from others. Is this the calm before the storm right now?
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Jul 27, 2017 7:24 PM

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Gwendolly said:
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Lucian was not in the psycho-pass game in question


Sorry I dont understand. He was or he was not in the game? >.<

edit: Since LW mentioned being angry about lucian, was just wondering if it was this so rumored psycho pass game.
Lucian did not play in the Psycho-Pass game.

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Jul 27, 2017 7:31 PM

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Gwendolly said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


So are you willing to lynch an inactive or not im confused by your wording lol


I'm saying I want to see more from others. Is this the calm before the storm right now?


well i mean in 3-4 hours i sleep and then wake up to go to work so wont have much time to provide input on a new trains that form.


Jul 27, 2017 7:32 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
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That line is exactly what im so hesitant to just drop town reads on people, sure I can change my read at any time, but people are manipulative if you give them a reason to think they are being town read that kinda gives them slight power. Ruu got away with too much shit in kiznaiver mafia.

Also why would you have to go with every read? Just like people don't want to blatantly follow logic you don't have to follow other reads. The problem is if 4 people see town intent in a post and you see scum intent then something is fishy.

True, True, Im waiting for Suzune-chan to clarify what I'm 180'ing so that I can understand where shes coming from. If its about defending myself that ya, of course Im gunna go against what everyone else thinks. Im not saying that what they are saying isnt probably cause, im just saying that not everything is just as Black and white as, "Only scum would say that", or "Only a townie would say that".
Edit: Had to fix, put my post in the wrong part of the quote :P
I did quote you changes. Did you not read the game?

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Jul 27, 2017 7:39 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
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True, True, Im waiting for Suzune-chan to clarify what I'm 180'ing so that I can understand where shes coming from. If its about defending myself that ya, of course Im gunna go against what everyone else thinks. Im not saying that what they are saying isnt probably cause, im just saying that not everything is just as Black and white as, "Only scum would say that", or "Only a townie would say that".
Edit: Had to fix, put my post in the wrong part of the quote :P
I did quote you changes. Did you not read the game?

I read, and backtracked and didnt see anything, maybe im blind? All I saw was this Whisper backing well almost everyone who falls under suspicion, and the only person I ever defended was Lucian, ok thats def a lie, because I did protect Albert, by proclaiming it was just an innocent post, but hey innocence I guess can be a decent ploy to get town read early. So two people, how is that everyone, especially when Lucian was on me because of my emotional post when only two people were on my train
Edit: added the last sentence afterwards, just clarifying.
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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Jul 27, 2017 7:41 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
@LucianRoy

I noticed this too, but I none of it so far struck me as scum white-knighting any town so far...
It could be much more indicative in the event of a scum-flip.
Well that is kind of my point in pointing it out. If we help too much or people are too cheery about it then it will make cleaning it up later a mess. I am not for in game coaching because I think it affects the way that people view that person in the game because by looking more helpful you are less likely to fall under scrutiny.


Where in the thread do do you think he does this most prevalently?


Here he comes of chummy with someone who's previous theory he was all up in arms about. Here To just become united over that and with no real reason to back down save for the post about it on the fourth page where is basically hand waves Sleip away.

On page for he was joking and being light about wen voting togs. On page five he critiques it Here

This one is quite odd Here

Here we see a very defensive defense of someone else Tone flip flop and apparently it needed an immediate follow up post? Follow up


That is my evidence

@LastWhisper31 I bolded it too.

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Jul 27, 2017 7:52 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
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Well that is kind of my point in pointing it out. If we help too much or people are too cheery about it then it will make cleaning it up later a mess. I am not for in game coaching because I think it affects the way that people view that person in the game because by looking more helpful you are less likely to fall under scrutiny.



Here he comes of chummy with someone who's previous theory he was all up in arms about. Here To just become united over that and with no real reason to back down save for the post about it on the fourth page where is basically hand waves Sleip away.

On page for he was joking and being light about wen voting togs. On page five he critiques it Here

This one is quite odd Here

Here we see a very defensive defense of someone else Tone flip flop and apparently it needed an immediate follow up post? Follow up


That is my evidence

@LastWhisper31 I bolded it too.

1. I like to defend both sides of the arguement, I stated times were being aggressive worked and didnt work.
2. Ohh me being honest? I was stating that I understand where Abu is coming from, wtf, there are other being trying to get him into the game, and Im trying also.
3. Lmao? Odd because im curious? Knowledge is power so they say.
4. Always the tones, the tones, are a big indication of alignment sometimes, and I had just woken up, and was going through the posts, my tone changed towards the end because I was replying to older posts, and as got to the newer ones it changed, I didnt just stop and abruptly get angry, it was smooth glide down the posts and as I read more posts against me, then my tone changed equivalently to the changes in the posts. Fair enough?
Edit: *Spelling, and also to adhere more on point 4. I was thinking more on that post, and I didnt want to edit the post again, because it had been a couple of minutes and I know its frowned upon, so I made another one to further explain.
blinddate
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never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
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you were on a
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Jul 27, 2017 7:56 PM

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1. Then you have no opinions actually? You just like to play the devil's advocate.

2. I already commented on why I thought it was bad.

4. I mean, I read your response but it stands out to me. You know that tone is very important to me in posts.

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Jul 27, 2017 7:58 PM

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Welp gonna sleep now too. Didn't realize there are already 5 votes on LW. Gonna unvote for now because I dont want a lynch lock to happen when I'm not online xD and that would be too much of a smooth lynch.

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Jul 27, 2017 8:02 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
1. Then you have no opinions actually? You just like to play the devil's advocate.

2. I already commented on why I thought it was bad.

4. I mean, I read your response but it stands out to me. You know that tone is very important to me in posts.

Im gunna take a page from Gwen's book and state what exactly does Wens have to do with anything there? I quoted Abu, I didnt even mention Wens name? I wasn't defending or disagreeing with Wens statement, like that wasnt even a thought going into that quote. I was focused more on Abu being a lurker because I had a habit of doing that a lot in my early games because I was afraid I wouldnt be able to back up my thoughts, and im still afraid of that
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Edit 2:Had to edit again for clarification haha
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Jul 27, 2017 8:06 PM

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Ya I do like to play the Devil's Advocate, its just something I do. An argument is two sides, if you dont look to understand both parties, then you opinion only comes off as biased too the one you're against, and I don't see anything wrong with thinking someone theory is wild but also enjoying the aesthetic behind where it comes from.
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Jul 27, 2017 8:06 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
Suzune-chan said:
1. Then you have no opinions actually? You just like to play the devil's advocate.

2. I already commented on why I thought it was bad.

4. I mean, I read your response but it stands out to me. You know that tone is very important to me in posts.

Im gunna take a page from Gwen's book and state what exactly does Wens have to do with anything there? I quoted Abu, I didnt even mention Wens name? I wasn't defending or disagreeing with Wens statement, like that wasnt even a thought going into that quote. I was focused more on Abu being a lurker because I had a habit of doing that a lot in my early games because I was afraid I wouldnt be able to back up my thoughts, and im still afraid of that
Edit: Grammar
Edit 2:Had to edit again for clarification haha
You seem to be misunderstanding. I am asking if you have any opinions of your own or whether you just intended to support everyone without taking sides at all. Since you are saying you are willing to play both sides. The first time you quote wen you make a joke of it and comment on how they always vote togs. Then one page later you want a critique on the vote. That seems like kind of a switch.

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Jul 27, 2017 8:10 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
@LucianRoy

I noticed this too, but I none of it so far struck me as scum white-knighting any town so far...
It could be much more indicative in the event of a scum-flip.
Well that is kind of my point in pointing it out. If we help too much or people are too cheery about it then it will make cleaning it up later a mess. I am not for in game coaching because I think it affects the way that people view that person in the game because by looking more helpful you are less likely to fall under scrutiny.


Where in the thread do do you think he does this most prevalently?


Here he comes of chummy with someone who's previous theory he was all up in arms about. Here To just become united over that and with no real reason to back down save for the post about it on the fourth page where is basically hand waves Sleip away.

On page for he was joking and being light about wen voting togs. On page five he critiques it Here

This one is quite odd Here

Here we see a very defensive defense of someone else Tone flip flop and apparently it needed an immediate follow up post? Follow up

That is my evidence


This is pretty decent evidence. As you explained before, this could definitely be coming from a scum-mindset, but I am now somewhat uncertain for reasons I might dive into soon.

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Gwendolly said:
LucianRoy said:

@Gwendolly, Last seems really intent on proving themselves town in this post by claiming pre-emptively.
What do you make of it?


If I calculate right, there are 4 on him now? Would you think there'd be scum on there?
Also it seems that my oppinion is important to you. Is that because you townread me already?

It's possible, but improbable. Maybe shinichi, maybe not. Tough to say this early, and remember, 8 are needed for a wagon, scum have ample time to decide on bussing a partner.

I tend to bounce ideas off of townreads just to confirm I read them town I've noticed. It's a surefire way to read people town, and it's a playstyle tick I suppose. Unfortunately, it's a way to prevent me pocketing people in my scum meta, wow I am so stupid, and that's all the self-meta I'm going to give this game because out of context it's usually read as scummy.

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Suzune-chan said:
Gwendolly said:


You both were town in the psycho pass game?
Lucian was not in the psycho-pass game in question

Suzune has a much better memory than myself, and I am siding with her on this one, I was allegedly not in this game.
The last psycho-pass game I remember being in was Soren's psycho pass game, and that was a long while back.

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lastwhisper31 said:
Suzune-chan said:
A this point @LastWhisper31 also picks up a ping because of his constant swaying and backing between targets. He seems to be trying to look like he is thinking about the game but in the end it really looks like swinging between people without making cases or just being a general backer of everyone else. He has an opinion about everyone but it reads as the opposite of what the person above them were talking even if it s a 180 from their last post. This one is worth watching.

Also what is with him and the psycho-pass game everything is not a reference to it, nor can it be used to clear anything in this game. This is the third time I have seen it referenced in four pages. You do not seem to have any wild theories this game and your playstyle is sidestepping and moving around.

First of all your wrong, Im always thinking about the game, always reading posts, always analyzing, so don't state what I do and don't do. Why do you refer to the people I quote and talk to as targets???

He has an opinion about everyone but it reads as the opposite of what the person above them were talking even if it s a 180 from their last post. This one is worth watching.
What opinion of everyone else? lol, I told you most all posts were nai, except how I saw Lucians posts. I havent even suspected anyone really, and explain to me where I completely 180 peoples thoughts and read? So now I need to go a long with every read or I'm scum? and What wild theories am I suppose to have, I only stated that towards Sleip cause as much as I think it was wild, I do know where hes coming from because, I posted a lot of stuff like that in previous games. You can easily turn anything anyone says against them, or for them, "I like wild theories", well I dont see any wild theories yet, hmm, hmm???

@Suzune-chan, how do you read this response?
Semantically, do you see it coming from frustrated town, or frustrated scum?

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Shinichi-Kun said:
If you think thats true why are you surprised that a few people are pocket town reading you lol. I do too, but i feel like its easier to find scum intent than it is to accurately find a town first day.

I mean, I want people to put effort into their reads on me, they can't just skate by.

Why wouldn't it be hesitant, the chance of S v S is possible so thats why i am hesitant to point all fingers at the T v T.

I'm just looking for analysis, not hypotheticals.

Meta not my first choice, but it's a start for me.

To each their own.

AI sure, the problem we are faced with like I said "Its the first time someone has really asked a question like that". Most people ask why are you town reading so so, normally you don't ask how are you town reading someone so early.

I see, Gwen did this recently I think when they ask why I kept asking them questions, but w/e.

Town Motivated sure but that doesnt mean town aligned, though i am liking her so far so I will see where that leads.

I see.
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Jul 27, 2017 8:16 PM

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@LucianRoy
@Suzune-chan, how do you read this response?
Semantically, do you see it coming from frustrated town, or frustrated scum?

Well the double hmm at the end, tempts me to read the post as defensive. It clearly starts off defensice too because he intends to make a grand stand because he starts with First. As though there are many things wrong that need correctly.

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Jul 27, 2017 8:17 PM

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Ohh I found it lol,
Lol you see this with togs, but I see this with abu... Togs talked a lot in the games I played with him, where does this consensus come from that he doesn't talk alot?
I guess I was just building on his post, because in my experience with Togs, he led the town very well, so me and him having different views on Togs is weird?
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blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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Jul 27, 2017 8:18 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
Ohh I found it lol,
Lol you see this with togs, but I see this with abu... Togs talked a lot in the games I played with him, where does this consensus come from that he doesn't talk alot?
I guess I was just building on his post, because in my experience with Togs, he led the town very well, so me and him having different views on Togs is weird?
You have a different view then I do on togs then too.

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Jul 27, 2017 8:21 PM

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and this was during the RVS stage so I was just joking around also. and She quoted me so I answered her back
P.S I originally added this later in my last post, but you quoted me so fast, so I'd rather move it down here
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Jul 27, 2017 8:23 PM

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Who here has a townread on Togs?
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Jul 27, 2017 8:26 PM

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Where is togs this game, why hasn't he interacted with me, and why am I not reading him town nor scum?

Vote: Togs
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Jul 27, 2017 8:27 PM

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LucianRoy said:
Where is togs this game, why hasn't he interacted with me, and why am I not reading him town nor scum?

Vote: Togs
Because only half the game is playing.

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Jul 27, 2017 8:28 PM

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@togs Your making me look bad, I said you were active :/.
@The_Pyromaani I pinged you in here, make me proud
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she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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LucianRoy (3): The_Pyromaani, Sleipnirr, AlbertinoDias
AlbertinoDias (1): Zymf
Wen294 (1): Togs
Suzune-Chan (1): aa-dono
LastWhsiper31 (3): ironace, Shinichi-Kun, Suzune-Chan
Shinichi-Kun (1): Red_Salmon
AbuHumaid (1): Wen294
Togs (1): Lucian
Not Voting (3): AbuHumaid, Gwendolly, LastWhisper31

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Time until Night 1

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Jul 27, 2017 9:09 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Because only half the game is playing.


It happens.
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Jul 27, 2017 10:20 PM

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I didn't realize Lucian had 3 votes

Ill Pop in during the morning to see whats happening.

For now tho Unvote


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I believe sliep is over reacting on purpose.He is trying to poke him and probably use him as bait but i dont think it will work.
So then you're scum reading him?
Because in your words, intentionally over reacting and trying to use somebody as bait to see if he can get a train on them is scummy behaviour in my eyes. Do you think differently about it?

Because you still seem to be voting lastwhisperer, but from your words you make it sound as if you have a strong read on sleip.
Or is it that you're just trying to make him a black sheep?
Jul 27, 2017 11:35 PM

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Gwendolly said:
@LucianRoy oh sorry I must have overread that.
@Gwendolly, does Togs' townread look like an early attempt to pocket me? I feel like there's not much explanation to go along with it. Was the post he read me town for NAI? Or is there actual tone there?

To be honest I dont know why he started to townread too, without really explaining it. I feel like its not his style to pocket someone. That said I like how you notice the same thing I am.

vote:lastwhisper31 Taking back your wording doesnt do it for me, since this is a game where everything you say and write will stand and be taken into investigation. My second reason for voting you is because I feel like I would get some answers if I'd know your alignment. Which I can't mention right now.
Idk man i thought it was pretty clear he meant town lean when he said "to me" and "but time will tell"
It shows that it was both his take on the matter and not a fact, and that he wasn't 100% sure about it yet either.
So yeh i won't follow you guys on the lastwhisper train if that's all you've got.
Jul 27, 2017 11:41 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
wen294 said:
You should know better by now than to assume that Togs talks. xD

Lol you see this with togs, but I see this with abu... Togs talked a lot in the games I played with him, where does this consensus come from that he doesn't talk alot?
Well there was a period of time where he joined close to every game and every time he just barely made the posting limit. He was scum in most of them.
He only showed up a bit D1, made some good posts, got townread and then dissapeared again. Everytime somebody looked at him again with doubt he'd show up again and make some good posts again.
It was pretty annoying honestly.

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Shinichi-Kun said:


shhhh you >3>

Just go back to lynching togs lol
Speaking from past games, i'm sure i will get down to that eventually xD

What is this stuff with togs, Im curious, can you explain Wens?[/quote]Well a bit after the period where togs was lurking every game i started getting annoyed and since then i've basically RVS voted Togs every single game we were in. I think this is the first one where i don't do so.
And i basically got him killed every single game since then too. Irregardless of our alignments. I think i bussed him twice, and leaded a case on him when we were both town twice as well.
Honestly so far i've only managed to kill him when we were the same alignment >_>

When i'm scum and my teammates are inactive, i bus the fck out of them. I hate having inactives in my team. So annoying.
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Shinichi-Kun said:
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Oh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops.
Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched.
We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum.

You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed.

Vote change: AbuHeman


What will this vote accomplish full well knowing who its on? Pressure why I like the vote, but hopefully there is more of a reason to come later because abu does this regardless of his alignment.

Because normally it isn't as important as in a strictly majority lynching game.
The guy hasn't even placed a vote yet and so far his posts have mainly been "yeh i dunno meng"
I have no intentions of taking somebody like that into the later game when we NEED active enough people to be able to get a lynch, let alone get a lynch on scum.
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Suzune-chan said:
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Also, 4 pages in close to an entire day isn't a lot. In fact, it's a scarily few.
Actually it is scaryly few. The majority of the second page was speculation about third party roles and the third was about mechanics, it is only now on page four that the game has really started. People are beginning now to make posts that seem to show their thinking and movement. It took a really long time to get out of RVS this game.
Getting out of RVS in 4 pages is okey, only getting 4 pages in an entire day is less okey though.
Then again i'm not very active now so it helps me with catcing up :3
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Sleipnirr said:
try referring them as their avatar's gender thats what I usually do I am a he btw
This is also what I do and sometimes I never learn if I am wrong. I try but I am often wrong.

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Something I noticed a lot while reading
People defending other people.

I have not seen such an interesting case of it. You could almost make an entire report this game about who people are backing. Shinichi helping Abu, Whisper backing well almost everyone who falls under suspicion like he is trying to keep the game super neutral (ushing sleip not thinking it's fine too.) odd playing going on there.

Also there is an amazing amount of hand holding for Abu going on when I have seen him play in many games.

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A this point @LastWhisper31 also picks up a ping because of his constant swaying and backing between targets. He seems to be trying to look like he is thinking about the game but in the end it really looks like swinging between people without making cases or just being a general backer of everyone else. He has an opinion about everyone but it reads as the opposite of what the person above them were talking even if it s a 180 from their last post. This one is worth watching.

Also what is with him and the psycho-pass game everything is not a reference to it, nor can it be used to clear anything in this game. This is the third time I have seen it referenced in four pages. You do not seem to have any wild theories this game and your playstyle is sidestepping and moving around.

Vote: LastWhisper

Well i myself defend other people every now and then, but that isn't because i town read them, but because i just can't see the reasons they are being scumread for as valid.
Similarly i made a slight defence for wisp a while ago, but i like your case. It's just the difference in reasons for voting/scumreading people more so than the person being scumread.

And yeah we could do without all these psycho pass game references. xD
I think it was like that last game as well ._.
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So are you willing to lynch an inactive or not im confused by your wording lol


I'm saying I want to see more from others. Is this the calm before the storm right now?

Ofc it is. In a moment the topic will be like this:


Phase change incoming ;)
Jul 28, 2017 1:06 AM

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Where is togs this game, why hasn't he interacted with me, and why am I not reading him town nor scum?

Vote: Togs
Gotta admit he's even more inactive than he normally is.
In general he's active D1 and then inactive for the rest of the game. I don't think i've seen him be so inactive D1 a lot.

Hold my pitchfork for a bit, i'm coming over but i have to find a torch first.

Vote: @Togs yWogsy
At least i know you CAN say something. I have no such trust in AbuHeman.
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Vote: @Togs yWogsy
At least i know you CAN say something. I have no such trust in AbuHeman.
ouch, why so much hate?
Jul 28, 2017 3:16 AM

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sorry guys that i havent been so active. But I will try my best.
Also, how long till phase change?
Jul 28, 2017 3:26 AM

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So then you're scum reading him?
Because in your words, intentionally over reacting and trying to use somebody as bait to see if he can get a train on them is scummy behaviour in my eyes. Do you think differently about it?

Because you still seem to be voting lastwhisperer, but from your words you make it sound as if you have a strong read on sleip.
Or is it that you're just trying to make him a black sheep?



Lol no, imo, its more to add pressure than anything.
But I later saw his reason for doing what he did so he isnt anyone too suspicious for now
I was too lazy to unvote before.
unvote


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ok, so you all are saying that lastwhisper is scummy for defending nearly everyone.
But his behaviour is not beneficial for neither mafia nor town.So why is he doing this?
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@abuhumaid, no hate for you, but you and some others like @togs are too quite.
Enlighten us as to who you think is scummy and why?
Jul 28, 2017 3:37 AM

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wen294 said:

Vote: @Togs yWogsy
At least i know you CAN say something. I have no such trust in AbuHeman.
ouch, why so much hate?
Because you have done literally nothing to contribute to town or enabling us to sort you out this game.
Jul 28, 2017 3:49 AM

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ironace said:
sorry guys that i havent been so active. But I will try my best.
Also, how long till phase change?

Time until Night 1

you have the time here
and i'm back, (had so much to read... )
Jul 28, 2017 4:00 AM

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sorry guys that i havent been so active. But I will try my best.
Also, how long till phase change?

Exactly three hours from now.
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
Jul 28, 2017 4:04 AM

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I am highly incredulous we'll achieve a lynch today, and I saw this coming page 1.
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
Jul 28, 2017 4:11 AM

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well from the Togs topic, he disappears in page 3, and never comes back, after that he is called 1 time from Luci in the post #193, he never answers the question, and this time it can't be because you/we did not give him enough time.... that's bad, but we have more people like that, people that were not looked into that much, like: aa-dono (we know why, it's unfortunate, but if you really want to cut someone inactive.... ); Zymf, she has 3 posts in the entire game!!! 1 on page 3 and the other on page 6 (will the next one be on page 9?? xD) btw to support this one, he asked me a question, i answered it and he talked about that again, to someone else... and shove it up when he goes straight away for what he is good at... while this answer my re-post, it isn't directed to me... i personally do not like that, and...

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we should not use the mechanics of the game part as an indicator of alignment, why you ask??, well because i think i was the one that started it (and for what i'm watching... i'm sorry) but it was only because i like to have the details of the game, the most outcomes i can save in my head.... i did many mistakes because i did not have them (like the werewolf game from the Halloween event);
and what Gwen did, i was not very satisfied with it, the post #290, he says he is willing to vote an active if someone wants to, and because a train has 5 people he drops... a train he helped to form... to me, this indicates something like... hey guys mafia are all actives, let's kill the ones that aren't so mafia has advantage... (i can be looking too much into this xD it's true :D) or he's just saying that he has nothing to do with Last anymore in case he is voted off.... yeah... something like this...
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well from the Togs topic, he disappears in page 3, and never comes back, after that he is called 1 time from Luci in the post #193, he never answers the question, and this time it can't be because you/we did not give him enough time.... that's bad, but we have more people like that, people that were not looked into that much, like: aa-dono (we know why, it's unfortunate, but if you really want to cut someone inactive.... ); Zymf, she has 3 posts in the entire game!!! 1 on page 3 and the other on page 6 (will the next one be on page 9?? xD) btw to support this one, he asked me a question, i answered it and he talked about that again, to someone else... and shove it up when he goes straight away for what he is good at... while this answer my re-post, it isn't directed to me... i personally do not like that, and...

If the phase were to end in 5 minutes, I wouldn't mind lynching Togs tbh.
My reasons are weak but they're reasons.

Zymf made some quality posts, and also explained his vote on you later.

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we should not use the mechanics of the game part as an indicator of alignment, why you ask??, well because i think i was the one that started it (and for what i'm watching... i'm sorry) but it was only because i like to have the details of the game, the most outcomes i can save in my head.... i did many mistakes because i did not have them (like the werewolf game from the Halloween event);

I'm glad you came to this conclusion on your own. That shows a genuine thought process in your approach to the game.
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Jul 28, 2017 4:39 AM

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I am highly incredulous we'll achieve a lynch today, and I saw this coming page 1.
Same. I saw it coming the moment i heard that it was strictly a lynch lock system.
Honestly if i'd known that i wouldn't even have joined >_>
I really need to check out the game rules better before i join next time xD

Problem is we can't just come to some lynch because the mafia will be on it close to surely and then we won't get a lynch...
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I have a theory about majority lynching and its success being dependent on time, but I don't have the numbers to support it.
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If the phase were to end in 5 minutes, I wouldn't mind lynching Togs tbh.
My reasons are weak but they're reasons.

I'm completly cool with lynching Togs too, but what's your take on AbuHeman? Are you willing to lynch him too?

If we can't lynch scum we need to at least lynch an inactive.
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wen294 said:
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What will this vote accomplish full well knowing who its on? Pressure why I like the vote, but hopefully there is more of a reason to come later because abu does this regardless of his alignment.

Because normally it isn't as important as in a strictly majority lynching game.
The guy hasn't even placed a vote yet and so far his posts have mainly been "yeh i dunno meng"
I have no intentions of taking somebody like that into the later game when we NEED active enough people to be able to get a lynch, let alone get a lynch on scum.


That certainly is a problem, I didn't really think of it like that. Still though even if he may or may not be harmful to town we should still consider his alignment before blatantly try lynching him.


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I have a theory about majority lynching and its success being dependent on time, but I don't have the numbers to support it.
Really?
I have a theory about majority lynching and ggez mafia victories. I have yet to be proven wrong.
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Suzune-chan said:
This is also what I do and sometimes I never learn if I am wrong. I try but I am often wrong.

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Something I noticed a lot while reading
People defending other people.

I have not seen such an interesting case of it. You could almost make an entire report this game about who people are backing. Shinichi helping Abu, Whisper backing well almost everyone who falls under suspicion like he is trying to keep the game super neutral (ushing sleip not thinking it's fine too.) odd playing going on there.

Also there is an amazing amount of hand holding for Abu going on when I have seen him play in many games.

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A this point @LastWhisper31 also picks up a ping because of his constant swaying and backing between targets. He seems to be trying to look like he is thinking about the game but in the end it really looks like swinging between people without making cases or just being a general backer of everyone else. He has an opinion about everyone but it reads as the opposite of what the person above them were talking even if it s a 180 from their last post. This one is worth watching.

Also what is with him and the psycho-pass game everything is not a reference to it, nor can it be used to clear anything in this game. This is the third time I have seen it referenced in four pages. You do not seem to have any wild theories this game and your playstyle is sidestepping and moving around.

Vote: LastWhisper

Well i myself defend other people every now and then, but that isn't because i town read them, but because i just can't see the reasons they are being scumread for as valid.
Similarly i made a slight defence for wisp a while ago, but i like your case. It's just the difference in reasons for voting/scumreading people more so than the person being scumread.

And yeah we could do without all these psycho pass game references. xD
I think it was like that last game as well ._.


I have that problem too but I get scum read for doing it, but the problem with my brother is he's kinda overdoing it a little That game was very different due to the circumstances so its probably a bad reference for a basic mafia game.


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