| Welcome to MAL. You have to understand, this is an internet forum. This is simply going to happen. Youre going to have to live with that, and to not cry when people act this way. |
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| If this forum had good moderators on here at one point or at least consistent ones to keep shit in line they're not here anymore. It's what makes this place seem equivalent to a trashcan. Just don't take shit on here too too serious. People on here are A-Grade assholes. |
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| Because you dismiss everything you don't agree with as "not understanding what you mean" or "irrelevant to the topic" even when they are perfectly fine arguments. Do you realize how arrogant that comes over? I know I've been one of the only people here to actually make a point to you but I really need to be careful with what I post too, basically scrutinizing all your points in order not to get the same arrogant reply as you give others. I'm not saying AD can't be as cancerous as you say because in my time here I've seen enough actual shitposting too but those are a minority most of the time, usually saved for when the topic in itself is a shitpost already. I mean, how come my topics don't turn into a warzone when it contains the exact same comments as your topics initially do? Because I try to learn something from all the posts I get. You're basically too stuck up your own ass to learn anything here. Right now if there's any toxicity on AD it's your own behavior, not that of the others. |
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| This is the Internet, deal with it, you will always have trolls and jackasses here, best thing you can do is hope you can have a reasonable person to have a discussion with, which there's plenty here then it's up to you to carry on that discussion. |
Aidoru-OjisanDec 27, 2017 10:31 PM
  Ascended Taste I only came back to this site for the forum sets and to promote my RYM list... Anilist ftw still :dab: |
| Good OP, this forum is rubbish. For some reason people are much nicer in pm |
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| Because they don't know how to have a gainful/advantageous debate, they only know how to boost their post count by shitposting on your threads. I wish MAL deleted this option. |
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| You shouldn't expect anything more than shitposting in an AD thread. |
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| I think people ran out of ideas for threads so they shitpost like this one. |
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| I think there's an easy fix for this. Just don't use MAL forums. You clearly don't seem to like them, and your username is literally NihilisticLoner, so.... yeah. What did you expect? |
| What exactly do you expect from a big online community? Especially when it's related to anime... I've only started posting (and browsing) on the forums for about two months so I don't know much. But from my little time here, it's not so bad. I used to be active on Anime Ultima (it's gone now), a much bigger community, with more weird topics and even more trolls. And Youtube is not exactly a place for discussion and debate. |
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| Ive seen a lot of your recent threads and it's you who needs to work on your communication skills. Sure you get shitpost comments and the like but I've seen numerous times people giving you well thought out and concise replies to which you respond in the fashion they are trolling you or shit posting or just didn't read your OP. |
NihilisticLoner said: holysauron said: Because you dismiss everything you don't agree with as "not understanding what you mean" or "irrelevant to the topic" even when they are perfectly fine arguments. Do you realize how arrogant that comes over? I know I've been one of the only people here to actually make a point to you but I really need to be careful with what I post too, basically scrutinizing all your points in order not to get the same arrogant reply as you give others. I'm not saying AD can't be as cancerous as you say because in my time here I've seen enough actual shitposting too but those are a minority most of the time, usually saved for when the topic in itself is a shitpost already. I mean, how come my topics don't turn into a warzone when it contains the exact same comments as your topics initially do? Because I try to learn something from all the posts I get. You're basically too stuck up your own ass to learn anything here. Right now if there's any toxicity on AD it's your own behavior, not that of the others. Could you provide a specific example of when I've done this? In the thread about whitewashing (for short) that I had made there were people who asked me why I cared about the topic, when I literally explained in the OP, why I did. Now as BurningSpirit has pointed out, there was actually a double meaning to those, "Why do you care", but I don't think there was any way I could've figured that out at the time. Posting, "This is a bait thread" and nothing more adds nothing to the topic of a forum, and plenty of people on the thread about whitewashing did just that. Your entire thread around animation counts really. NihilisticLoner said: @Pullman Your post is unnecessarily condescending. You claim I'm being a child, but from my perspective, you are the one behaving like one. Your calling me stupid...over cartoons. "try dragging everyone who is a bit more experienced than you down to your level of not-having-a-clue." You guys are the ones who decided to read and post on this forum. I literally have no power to force you to read/listen to my opinion. I literally never implied that people were lying, I implied that they didn't know what they were talking about. 2 different things. If you keep up this behavior, I'm gonna report you. "you are basically unable to admit you're ever wrong or minsinformed" Uh...duh? This is the internet? Almost nobody ever agrees with someone they disagree. I've been watching Mother's Basement, BlackCriticGuy, Digibro, for years, and they don't tell shit about how to tell good or bad animation, all they do is say, "This anime is animated well". I can't find any videos online that actually explain how to tell good/bad animation from each other, but if you could provide a link, that'd be awesome. I sometimes pay attention to the actual movement on screen, and my opinion still hasn't changed. Saint_Nepunepu said: Film animation existed even in Japan before Disney was founded, and people exaggerate Disney's influence on anime to an insane degree. Anime is anti-Disney. Why don't you provide a link to a website that proves this? This one was still pretty tame but when reading this you seem to try to debunk everything that's been said to you, only to piss others off because they seriously wanted to help you. That thread is full with those kind of posts and worse. Your thread about anime that is ashamed of being anime is another goldmine for those. At one point you literally said this: NihilisticLoner said: Saint_Nepunepu said: The world is not a college classroom where you are graded on your ability to write bullshit Not the world. But my question is. Saint_Nepunepu said: Western art schools (and increasingly all other schools) are a complete joke and this just demonstrates it. You can't convince someone of something like this, when you're a complete stranger. Saint_Nepunepu said: We are not here to give you exactly the answers you want according to the exact criteria you want. Something is not an invalid answer or an irrelevant factor just because it's not what you want to hear. I created this forum. These are MY questions. If you don't want to give the valid answers I'm seeking, then simply don't answer. Even within context that's just arrogant. Edit: I forgot to reread my own post here, sorry for that. It's still relevant though. This is what I actually meant. NihilisticLoner said: In your original post, you explained how realistic movements and drawings can just be impressive (even if I still disagree, but that's not the point), but did not explain how 91 Days, specifically accomplishes this. That's not all I said, and I didn't say anything about the animation of 91 Days. I think we've strayed a bit from the original question: What is the artistic point of an anime that aims to purely imitate live action and realism?[/quote] |
holysauronDec 28, 2017 3:20 AM
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| People are too lazy especially if the thread maker writes a whole page explaining the thread so he or she skips the main post and comments or answers to the title. I do it at times when post is too long to read. |
| pretty simple, the users of this forum are asssholes. |
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| I did not read past the title but if something is difficult I am sure it is your fault. |
| I think that blog would be more fitting for this OP. |
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| MAL forums are, for the most part, a miserable experience. But then that goes for other online communities too. Stay out of CD and you'll probably be ok. I'll talk about anime with you if you want ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| This is going to be interesting. NihilisticLoner said: Whenever I'm talking about anime with almost anybody on MAL, people exhibit the following: The things you've listed are very common in any forum, and also in any text based platform which isn't real time. There are many reasons. -Misunderstanding the point being expressed, no matter how obvious it is A: Literalism, people don't try to understand the message being expressed, but rather focus on the words being used. One word rings well for them and they make a whole reply based on a single word. Obviously they miss the whole message. -Posting without adding anything to the thread (usually to solely complain about the existence of the thread, rather than add anything) A: Shitposting, there are many different reasons for shitposting too. See this thread. -Namecalling A: Teamplaying, some assume to be part of a team, and anyone being part of the other team can be attacked. -Calling a thread a shitpost/bait, even though by definition, the thread is neither A: Shitposting, see above. -Not reading the original post for context, resulting in people asking the OP why they care about the topic, even though the OP has already explained why they do care, in the original post (See the thread: "Why do anime fans excuse anime that uses light-skinned characters in a setting where they SHOULD be dark skinned?") A: Laziness. -Beating around the bush instead of actually answering what is being asked A: Not having an answer. -Exaggerating/oversimplifying peoples' opinions A: Strawmanning. Or poor understanding coupled with the intent of "proving the other wrong". |
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| Maybe we all have communication problems. |
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| MAL forums are the worst forums I've seen up until now. Hell, even sites not dedicated to anime that have an anime board/sub-board encourage healthier discussion. Hayushi said: Some are, most aren't. Just stay out of Casual Discussion and you'll be fine. That'll give you cancer and make you sickWell I just came into this community, I really don't know much about it Q_Q is it true that people are that mean here ? |
| Current Events is pretty bad, but besides that the forums are decent from what I've seen so far (bear in mind I have not been here for that long) |
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| Huh, I agree that I saw friendlier users on almost every anime/manga-related site compared to MAL. At one point I lashed out at one user on mangafox because I thought she was being sarcastic and mean like MAL users, but she was actually complimenting me! It's true that you get bitter after using MAL even for few hours.. So I occasionally make a pause and when I post something, I ignore replies because I see only uneducated people that are frustrated with their own life and spend too much time using computer or phone (etc). Which is such a shame, because I'm probably missing out great opinions that are worth reading.. I did use to argue a lot, then I saw how uneducated (like I already said,but that needs to be typed twice) and ignorant most of users are, and I don't like people who don't get education seriously and they probably didn't even read The Little Prince, so I stopped wasting my time. Anyway, don't try to socialize here. Trust me. I have bunch of friends on other sites(and in real life), and you should try some other sites too, like reddit or some anime picture board (not zerochan, they are awful), or manga reading site. I'm here because I like the system of adding anime and manga to your list and because I can read news about my favourite ones. And ignore users that tell you that most people are like that (like you described MAL users), because they are not, only users on MAL fit that description. |
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S-quare22 said: I never got why people want a high post count. I'd gladly revert my post count to 100 to make it seem like I have a life, given how most my posts have come within the last 3-5 months (I'm enlisted in national service atm as a standby force of sorts, so I've just got shit loads of time on my phone).Because they don't know how to have a gainful/advantageous debate, they only know how to boost their post count by shitposting on your threads. I wish MAL deleted this option. |
| If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
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| It is simple really. You present yourself as an asshole and respond poorly. You have even said you are self-aware about that. If you present yourself like that and don't expect others not to treat you like you present yourself then I think you are just not thinking straight. If you present yourself as a nice person who puts out well thought out replies and tries to communicate properly you usually get that same response back. Aka look in a mirror and see how you are acting towards others to make them so violent. |
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| MAL is so autistic that the youtube comments compared to this forum is a kindergarden. People can actually laugh there. |
| WhY iS iT sO dIfFiCuLT tO cOmMuNiCaTe WiTh YoU gUyS? |
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MortalMelancholy said: Because: 1. Humans are stupid 2. Most MAL users have poor mastery of the English language (To use English is actually in the rules btw) 3. MAL forum mods are trolls and only serve to aggravate the already troll userbase. 4. MAL users have shit taste. I think you just perfectly described MAL. I don't expect anything from people who's very entitled to their own opinion. |
| Your arguments are garbage and whenever someone points that out, you immediately dismiss what they're saying, and label it as "you didn't understand me" or "that's irrelevant to the topic" When you make shitty threads and act like a complete tool when someone destroys your "arguments", don't cry and place the blame on other people. |
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BurningSpirit said: S-quare22 said: I never got why people want a high post count. I'd gladly revert my post count to 100 to make it seem like I have a life, given how most my posts have come within the last 3-5 months (I'm enlisted in national service atm as a standby force of sorts, so I've just got shit loads of time on my phone).Because they don't know how to have a gainful/advantageous debate, they only know how to boost their post count by shitposting on your threads. I wish MAL deleted this option. I would like to ask that question to nymi, lol. And yeah, I still can't get the point of having a high post count when most of those posts are shit. As for you, you're one of the most serious users here and I really like your posts, you prefer quality over quantity which is pretty rare on MAL. |
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CatSoul said: Probably because you're a nihilistic loner. This made me actually smile, congrats. I like this site, and while some people like joking around and revolving everything around traps, imoutos and lolis. I appreciate the serious answers. The shitposting comments either make me laugh or I just ignore them. |
S-quare22 said: Whatever the reason, seems like @nymi is having a burn out of sorts and hasn't been around for some time.I would like to ask that question to nymi, lol. S-quare22 said: I'm guessing that's why they implemented a shitty word limit system on MAL.And yeah, I still can't get the point of having a high post count when most of those posts are shit. Hasn't worked though, all it does is annoy me when I feel like a short direct response is all that is required to reply another person. Perhaps allowing people to post as they please will be a less restrictive, yet have a certain threshold of words before the post adds to your post count (which could encourage discussion). S-quare22 said: Most the time I start writing a post, then delete it completely because it's too short and conveys too little information that hasn't already been mentioned before. I've got no interest in just quipping in on something and add nothing of discussion value (at least in my opinion) to it, I'd be on Instagram if I wanted to do that.As for you, you're one of the most serious users here and I really like your posts, you prefer quality over quantity which is pretty rare on MAL. Though admittedly, there is a certain value in leaving a short, smart and cheeky comment as the first reply on a new thread which I sometimes do. It also helps set the tone of the entire thread if you do it fast enough. On occasion @Swagernator has posts that fall into this category. But it's nice to know that you can recognise an attempt to create discussion, regardless on whether or not they agree with the person :) |
BurningSpiritDec 28, 2017 5:45 AM
| If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
BurningSpirit said: Though admittedly, there is a certain value is leaving a short, smart and cheeky comment as the first reply on a new thread which I sometimes do. It also helps set the tone of the entire thread if you do it fast enough. On occasion @Swagernator has posts that fall into this category. But it's nice to know that you can recognise an attempt to create discussion, regardless on whether or not they agree with the person :) Oh you know me very well, my dude. But that's not true, it can't be ... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Swagernator said: On occasionBurningSpirit said: Though admittedly, there is a certain value is leaving a short, smart and cheeky comment as the first reply on a new thread which I sometimes do. It also helps set the tone of the entire thread if you do it fast enough. On occasion @Swagernator has posts that fall into this category. But it's nice to know that you can recognise an attempt to create discussion, regardless on whether or not they agree with the person :) Oh you know me very well, my dude. But that's not true, it can't be ... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Definitely short and really quick a lot of the times. However most the times it seem you are just having fun with jokes and trolling (which is fine), but it doesn't quite make a point. Maybe consider upping the proportion of smart and cheekyness a little :P There's definitely lot of sway in short, concise, smart and cheeky comments that are the first reply to a thread. It could serve as a great means of initiating discussion. |
BurningSpiritDec 28, 2017 6:11 AM
| If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
Tl;dr I think that while it's definitely tricky to make friends when you don't know where to look for them, MAL itself isn't difficult when it comes to discussions. It's a great place for when you want various opinions to coexist alongside each other. If you have trouble getting what you really want across to MAL users, it could help to simplify everything instead of expecting people to read between the lines for "hints". |
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Hayushi said: Well I just came into this community, I really don't know much about it Q_Q is it true that people are that mean here ? Nah, OP just made several threads and people reacted annoyed, that is why he's butthurt. Overall people are quite friendly here, you have a few assholes here and there but that is just the internet in general :) |
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NihilisticLoner said: READ BEFORE YOU POST! THIS IS NOT A BAIT OR SHITPOST! Shitpost: "is the act of posting large amounts of content of "aggressively, ironically, and trollishly poor quality" to an online forum or social network, in some cases intended to derail discussions or otherwise make the site unusable to its regular visitors." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitposting Bait: "an internet slang term used to describe comments or opinions which are considered to be made purposefully to troll other posters or to start a flame war" Source: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bait-this-is-bait By those definitions, I am not baiting or shitposting. Whenever I'm talking about anime with almost anybody on MAL, people exhibit the following: -Misunderstanding the point being expressed, no matter how obvious it is -Posting without adding anything to the thread (usually to solely complain about the existence of the thread, rather than add anything) -Namecalling -Calling a thread a shitpost/bait, even though by definition, the thread is neither -Not reading the original post for context, resulting in people asking the OP why they care about the topic, even though the OP has already explained why they do care, in the original post (See the thread: "Why do anime fans excuse anime that uses light-skinned characters in a setting where they SHOULD be dark skinned?") -Beating around the bush instead of actually answering what is being asked -Exaggerating/oversimplifying peoples' opinions Why. Why is it that if I go out, try to actually socialize, I can meet actual people, discuss anime with them, without any of them doing any of the things that I have listed above? For crying out loud, it's easier to communicate with people under YOUTUBE F*CKING COMMENT SECTIONS!!! You heard me right. I see people exhibit less of these problems under YOUTUBE F*CKING COMMENT SECTIONS!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH OF HOW MUCH A F*CKING ACHIEVEMENT THAT IS?! Hayushi said: Well I just came into this community, I really don't know much about it Q_Q is it true that people are that mean here ? To both of you, yes, MAL forums suck. If you want to have meaningful conversations, try reddit or other forums (I recall there was a thread in reddit saying there are even better places where you can find in depth analysis of episodes, even though you can also find that on reddit). I only use MAL as a means to remember which shows I have already watched and which ones I plan to watch in the future. I recommend you to do the same. By the way Hayushi, we have 48.3% affinity! It's difficult for me to find someone with an affinity that high! :D |
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holysauron said: NihilisticLoner said: If you don't want to give the valid answers I'm seeking, then simply don't answer. That kinda summarizes up nicely how every one of OPs discussions I ever had with him or observed him have with others went. He knows what he wants to hear, and if he doesn't get it he starts throwing a tantrum and blaming everyone else for not saying exactly what he wants to hear (which they obviously only do because they misunderstand him, because noone could disagree with him if they only understood). If you don't say what he wants to hear (basically backing up his pre-existing opinion) he'll usually just completely deflect or quickly lose interest in interacting with you most of the time. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I saw that ninja edit you did with the title, OP. Kind of concedes your point considering the fact that you had to go through the thread and read the posts but not answer to them in order to edit the title after seeing the amount of backlash it generated. |
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| @NihilisticLoner Fair enough, your lack of a profile doesn't really help me notice you have responded though. Obviously, every internet forum/site with a decent amount of people is going to have their bad egg's/children so singling MAL out for it is kind of incorrect. It's not like research was conducted and this conclusion was based on your own experiences (and you can't be everywhere and account for every user at once) |
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: Let's not kid ourselves. It's true that NihilisticLoner is incapable of having a proper conversation with another human being, but that doesn't change the fact that AD is the leading cause of cancer death in the world. Has anybody said anything to the contrary? I don't think I've met a single regular user of this board who has ever said anything nice about the people here in a general sense. |
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: Manaban said: Has anybody said anything to the contrary? I don't think I've met a single regular user of this board who has ever said anything nice about the people here in a general sense. My comment was mostly directed at the people saying that they "haven't really encountered much toxicity". I mean, if they don't think this place is toxic, what boards do they usually go to? I'm quite new and I stay on FG mostly but I can see why AD people call AD cancer |
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: Manaban said: Has anybody said anything to the contrary? I don't think I've met a single regular user of this board who has ever said anything nice about the people here in a general sense. My comment was mostly directed at the people saying that they "haven't really encountered much toxicity". I mean, if they don't think this place is toxic, what boards do they usually go to? Ah Well, if that's the case then idk, maybe they do the smart thing and just find people like them and mostly just speak with them on this site. I feel like huge reason AD is such a shithole is because anime is a diverse as all hell medium and attracts a large amount of people through a variety of lanes of appeal. Like, imagine gathering music fans of every conceivable genre and putting them all together on one site on the internet to discuss who's music was better or why other people's type of music sucked. I'd bet, just like AD, the only people who wouldn't be driven insane by it would be the ones who didn't tend to meet at the point where everything converged, and just retreated further into their interest group and mostly stuck with those guys. I guess when that'd be the case and they mostly used this site to communicate with people through means like that, then it'd be easier not to see it as the cess pit that it is. |
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